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Marianne Hales Harding
Posted: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:33:41 PM


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I finally got around to watching this film (hey! We were out of the country for the past two years!) and I kept watching for the scene with the Christus statue as I remember a heated discussion about it on the AML list a while ago. But there was no Christus statue in the movie I watched! Am I misremembering what you all were talking about? (Or am I losing my mind?)
Nan McCulloch
Posted: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:14:54 PM

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The Christus statue was in Dutcher's movie Falling. No connection between the two movies. Falling was shown during a special screening for the Sunstone Symposium.


Mark Brown
Posted: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 7:22:36 AM

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Marianne,

Other than wondering where the Christus ending went, what did you think of the film overall? What moments stick out in your mind for better or worse? How did you feel about it? I'm curious how someone with a little distance from the movie views it. You know, fresh eyes and all that.
Marianne Hales Harding
Posted: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 10:15:22 PM


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Aaah! That makes much more sense! :)

As far as my thoughts on the film itself: I was tainted by the person I was watching it with leaving abruptly in the middle, due to a strong negative reaction to the film, but I actually liked it. It had some clunky spots for me and I can't say that I was turning cartwheels with joy for having watched it...but there were things I liked about it. I liked Lozano's journey a lot. I loved how shocking it was when the tattoos were revealed and how he really changed and became a true missionary. It was beautiful. I actually really liked the neighbor girl's development as well...until we get to the end and she doesn't realize that the preacher guy who has told her outright he is celibate and who freaks out at the very idea of having a female person in his apartment specifically because she might tempt him physically would in any way be in trouble for being alone with her in her apartment and succombing to her feminine wiles as it were. I thought they made it pretty clear that missionaries are celibate so it just doesn't seem plausible that she wouldn't have a clue that something might be wrong. I can see her perhaps thinking it wouldn't be a commit-suicide kind of problem, but she had to know it might be a problem. Oh, but I loved the scene where they hold hands through the doorframe. It was just lovely. You ached for her and wanted so bad for someone to reach out to her somehow, rules be darned :) You could really feel the conflict between wanting to reach out as a human and wanting to maintain the standards of a missionary. And I think you also see why those missionary rules are in place! It didn't do anybody any good, in the end, for him to break the rules, IMO. Just created more heartbreak. Which is a nice contrast to the other breaking rules storyline, which turned out much better (though, really, I don't know why they had no other option than bringing him into their apartment. Are there no social workers who could help? Am I completely naive here? And aren't they lucky he didn't wake up and completely wig out upon finding himself basically abducted?).

I also understand the visual he was going for with the live nativity, but I couldn't get past the fact that this woman was passing her newborn around among strangers on the street in a big city! Esp when Farrell begins to break down. I would NOT let a crazy man hold my baby. Sorry. You'll have to have your cathartic moment with someone else's child. I also thought the sequence went too long with so many people holding the baby and having their little moment. It would have been more effective, IMO, to have Farrell be the only one who held the child and then everyone have their moment around him. The payoff for the visual wasn't big enough for that build-up.

So. There we go. Nice movie. Not on my list of top ten life changing cinematic moments.
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